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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: Back in the market Reply with quote

Due to my recent... misfortune... I am back in the market for a motorbike, to amuse myself while the insurance clowns bugger about, and maybe to get some idea of what to get if they give me any quantity of monies back.

Here's the criteria:

*Manual
*125cc
*Must cope with bad roads/dirt tracks
*Cheap! £££
*It would be a bonus if it looked cool.
*Fun!
*Reliable

Right from the off, my choices fall into two distinct categories: New Chinese or Used Japanese.

Here are the pros and cons of both, off the top of my head.

New Chinese
Pros
*Cheap!
*Some are very cool.
*Good if you have dealer's warranty etc.
*Reliable if maintained properly.

Cons
*Parts availability
*Insurance difficult
*Quality?

Used Japanese
Pros
*Parts Availability
*Insurable
*Quality

Cons
*Unknown history
*Age/mileage
*Expensive
*No warranty

Right now I have looked at several bikes from each category, from different genres, sports/offroad/commuter etc. and two struck me as being particularly appealing.

In the red corner, weighing in at 118 kilos, the chinky chariot, the Superbyke RMR125!


In the blue, also weighing in at 118 kilos, the old jap, the Yamaha TW125 Trailway!


Ding Ding!

...anyway... I'm leaning towards the superbyke... my local bike garage stocks them, offers finance and has a warranty and reairs offer included in the price.
Trying to get hold of an old Yammy for the money that I have NOW is impossible, I've been trawling through the local bike trader and most of the stuff is either far more expensive or junk. and of course there are no warranties or finance options. and I'd have to go miles out of my way to pick one up.

if you have any suggestions I'd love to hear them!

so... we'll see whether I get my money, and then... well?
matt black stealth superbyke anyone?



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RMR for the win, you can use parts from the Pulse Adrenaline if needs be so parts aint a problem and most bike shops are willing to work on these as most don’t even realise its a Chinese bike.

Plus it has a Suzuki licensed engine with 14.5nm or torque which makes it a proper little wheelie machine



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

damn! both look big and heavy! how about a honda xr125?

bulletproof engines, you just need to shop around Razz



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pac1982 wrote:
RMR for the win, you can use parts from the Pulse Adrenaline if needs be so parts aint a problem and most bike shops are willing to work on these as most don’t even realise its a Chinese bike.

Plus it has a Suzuki licensed engine with 14.5nm or torque which makes it a proper little wheelie machine


Cool yup.

my local shop is brilliant, but they are a bit pricey...

just under £1700 for a completely road-ready brand new one Shocked

however, I suspect that the convenience of having a warranty and a reputable dealer locally is worth quite a bit... no dropshipping for me...

and joe, I did consider one of those hondas, but it is a bit too oriented towards offroad use for me, even if the roads round here are terrible.



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could do you one much cheaper than that on the road, but like you say having your dealer just down the road is priceless



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the Yamaha XT125X ?




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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's nice but I assume they're quite pricey in a reasonable condition or new.



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pick up a nice used example for the same price you'll be paying for the RMR



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this 'orrible lot would never forgive me if I defected to japan... Laughing



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get one anyway and tell people on here its a chinese clone of what ever it is you end up getting Laughing



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as the manual is written in very poor English, we'll all be none the wiser



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we agreeing much! Laughing



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take the stickers off and replace them with Zhonghen stickers or something.

I'd have a DT125



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here there is not as much selection of 125s as you probably have.

This is what I would look for:
Kawasaki eliminator 125


Its no dirt bike, but IMHO looks so much cooler.



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh god. Shocked

dad's been looking for Superbyke RMR125's and he's stumbled upon Marshy's Motorcycles. No amount of arguing will dissuade him. I don't want a crated bike that I need to register and get otr myself, even if it is £600 quid cheaper.

I want a warranty, backup, reliable parts and servicing and a local dealer.

Please God don't let him do this. Evil or Very Mad



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